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neuron

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http://closure-library.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/closure/goog/docs/index.html

Now I haven't looked into the specifics, but from the screenshot and text it looks like the normal google docs editor.

It even has "table" and "insert" as menu items.

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Re: use the newly released google closeure library for editing documents
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2009, 01:18:33 pm »
The Closure Library is a JavaScript library. It may include an editor component but it would be just a front-end. It would lack server-side functionality like concurrent edition, exporting/importing to/from other formats, etc. Without all that I don't think there would be much difference with the editor we are using today, so it wouldn't be worth to add a whole new library. What do you think?

I haven't looked into the specifics either, so I could be wrong.

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Re: use the newly released google closeure library for editing documents
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2009, 03:15:55 am »
Yeah it's more than likely missing import/export, but in my experience the editor your using now is very html based, it doesn't have the text document "feel" to it.  Enter does what a linefeed would in html, not what it would do in a text document, etc.

Now of course it depends entirely on how much of the editor is actually there, and I seriously doubt it's much more than a basic rtf editor.  It'd be very cool if it had tables support though.

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Re: use the newly released google closeure library for editing documents
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2009, 04:50:05 am »
Yeah it's more than likely missing import/export, but in my experience the editor your using now is very html based, it doesn't have the text document "feel" to it.  Enter does what a linefeed would in html, not what it would do in a text document, etc.

We are on the web, aren't we? It must be HTML based.
I think the key to enhance it is the export functionality, not the editor itself.

Of course you can have XML instead of HTML, but HTML is easier when we are working on the web.
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Re: use the newly released google closeure library for editing documents
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2009, 04:52:58 am »
Yeah it's more than likely missing import/export, but in my experience the editor your using now is very html based, it doesn't have the text document "feel" to it.  Enter does what a linefeed would in html, not what it would do in a text document, etc.

We are on the web, aren't we? It must be HTML based.
I think the key to enhance it is the export functionality, not the editor itself.

Of course you can have XML instead of HTML, but HTML is easier when we are working on the web.

We are on the web, but that doesn't mean it must feel like a web document/web editor.  For example in a document enter would mean linefeed, in the web based editor shift+enter is a linefeed.  It's not much, but it's small things like that that make it seem like your editing a web page and not a document.

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Re: use the newly released google closeure library for editing documents
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2009, 09:37:23 am »
Our editor can be configured to treat ENTER as a regular line feed instead of a new paragraph. In fact, when composing an email ENTER behaves like that. Do you think it should also behave that way for documents?

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Re: use the newly released google closeure library for editing documents
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2009, 09:42:49 am »
Our editor can be configured to treat ENTER as a regular line feed instead of a new paragraph. In fact, when composing an email ENTER behaves like that. Do you think it should also behave that way for documents?

Yes, I defenatly do.  If your editing a document, it's the behavior you'd expect.


This is going slightly off topic, looking over the page it looks to be considerably more basic than I was led to believe.  Got the link from an article talking about their document editor along with a link to the now open source library.

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Re: use the newly released google closeure library for editing documents
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2009, 04:20:10 am »
What user expects is not what best accomplish the solution. If you change the behaviour of the editor, you are creating bad semantic HTML code, and that would get bad export options.

WYSIWYG editors overlook the neccesity of a good structure in the document, and that's not a good solution for anyone. Semantic markup is a must on every editor, no mind what desktop solutions do, specially if they are getting worse document structures
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Re: use the newly released google closeure library for editing documents
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2009, 03:03:47 pm »
We could remove (or reduce) the top and bottom padding in paragraphs, so that a new paragraph looks like a line break, although this would mean that in order to get an empty space between paragraphs you would have to type ENTER twice, creating an empty paragraph between paragraphs.

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