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Feng Office 3 / Re: New -> Milestone is not available in Tasks tab
« on: April 29, 2015, 06:39:18 pm »
That's it, thanks Curtisf. I just didn't spot it at first!
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Feng Office 3 / New -> Milestone is not available in Tasks tab
« on: April 29, 2015, 03:43:32 pm »
I've just installed 3.1.3 Community Edition. I'd like to create a new milestone. In the Tasks Tab I click 'New' and get...
New
-> Task
-> Template
... but no 'Milestone'
Are Milestones still available in the Community Edition? And how do I enable them?
New
-> Task
-> Template
... but no 'Milestone'
Are Milestones still available in the Community Edition? And how do I enable them?
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How To's / Re: Clean up large data before upgrade
« on: May 27, 2013, 06:48:17 am »
I managed to clean up some redundant data with SQL:
First, from fo_searchable_objects:
Then, from both fo_mail_datas and fo_mail_contents:
...and then optimized the tables and reduced the size significantly.
I'm not yet sure if I broke anything, but there don't appear to be any ill effects.
First, from fo_searchable_objects:
Code: [Select]
DELETE so.*
FROM fo_searchable_objects so, fo_mail_contents mc
WHERE so.rel_object_manager = "MailContents"
AND so.rel_object_id = mc.id
AND mc.is_deleted = 1
Then, from both fo_mail_datas and fo_mail_contents:
Code: [Select]
DELETE md.*, mc.*
FROM fo_mail_datas md, fo_mail_contents mc
WHERE md.id = mc.id
AND mc.is_deleted = 1
...and then optimized the tables and reduced the size significantly.
I'm not yet sure if I broke anything, but there don't appear to be any ill effects.
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How To's / Clean up large data before upgrade
« on: May 24, 2013, 09:32:52 am »
I'm upgrading my last (and largest - that's why I've been procrastinating!) Feng Office instance from 1.7.5 to 2.x and want to cleanup the database tables and files before I do.
The biggest user of data is email, with the table fo_mail_datas, and the upload folder that contains all the attachment data.
Simply deleting old or irrelevant emails and their attachments does not clear the records in the database tables (I'm not sure what happens to the attachment in the upload tree).
Are there any tools or utilities that can help?
Denis
The biggest user of data is email, with the table fo_mail_datas, and the upload folder that contains all the attachment data.
Simply deleting old or irrelevant emails and their attachments does not clear the records in the database tables (I'm not sure what happens to the attachment in the upload tree).
Are there any tools or utilities that can help?
Denis
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How To's / Re: Tags for users and contacts
« on: February 19, 2013, 11:15:57 am »
I first noticed this in V2.2.3.1.
I think it's a bug.
You can still relate users to a Workspace using drag-and-drop, but you cannot break the relationship. You also cannot drag the Person object to the Workspace parent folder to assign them to none/all.
I personally think that adding 'People' as a dimension and keeping them as a objects in a Tab panel has added a degree of complexity to the query logic, and the developers are still doing battle with it!
I think it's a bug.
You can still relate users to a Workspace using drag-and-drop, but you cannot break the relationship. You also cannot drag the Person object to the Workspace parent folder to assign them to none/all.
I personally think that adding 'People' as a dimension and keeping them as a objects in a Tab panel has added a degree of complexity to the query logic, and the developers are still doing battle with it!
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Development / Re: What object_types ID should I use
« on: January 28, 2013, 05:49:59 pm »
Just noticed that in the latest version (2.2.2), plugin manager uses the unique ID assigned by MySQL. So now the type id does not need to specified in the plugin's info.php file.
Just one thing though. If a tab is also specified, its related object_type_id there should be some of telling the plugin manager to use the object type ID that has just been created.
I'll post this on Mantis...
Just one thing though. If a tab is also specified, its related object_type_id there should be some of telling the plugin manager to use the object type ID that has just been created.
I'll post this on Mantis...
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Development / What object_types ID should I use
« on: December 17, 2012, 12:46:37 pm »
I'm developing a (v2.2.x) plugin and want to implement a new object type (as per table - object_types).
What rules prevent duplicate object_type ID's?
For example, can I request unique object IDs from the Feng Dev team?
Or do I just choose a random ID and hope no one else uses it?
Or should I use my plugin install script to simply use the next available ID?
Regards
Denis
What rules prevent duplicate object_type ID's?
For example, can I request unique object IDs from the Feng Dev team?
Or do I just choose a random ID and hope no one else uses it?
Or should I use my plugin install script to simply use the next available ID?
Regards
Denis
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Development / Re: Feng Office 2 - New documentation for Development
« on: December 17, 2012, 12:25:54 pm »
I've updated the wiki. You should be able to get your apps running in a tab with an iframe in your view file.
One thing I noticed: after installing and activating you must navigate to Administration -> Tabs settings and Save. Then refresh your browser and your new tab will appear.
One thing I noticed: after installing and activating you must navigate to Administration -> Tabs settings and Save. Then refresh your browser and your new tab will appear.
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Applications / Re: "Hello World!" application
« on: December 12, 2012, 08:25:23 am »
See updated documentation here:
/web/wiki/doku.php/plugins_documentation
(sorry, my status on this board is too lowly to post links)
/web/wiki/doku.php/plugins_documentation
(sorry, my status on this board is too lowly to post links)
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Feng Office 2 / Re: So....really....what's happenning to Feng Office?
« on: December 12, 2012, 07:59:17 am »
Thanks for providing us with some insight Conrado.
I now understand that the move to V2.x was huge.
I was dead serious about asking what we can do to help. The wiki, for example, is seriously out of date, and so I have decided to update it whenever I can...
...starting with the section on writing a plugin (I hope you approve), and challenge other Feng Office Community users who use this great product for free to help create a vibrant community by contributing in kind by helping newbies on the forum, contributing a plugin and writing (or translating) a wiki article.
Best
--
Denis
I now understand that the move to V2.x was huge.
I was dead serious about asking what we can do to help. The wiki, for example, is seriously out of date, and so I have decided to update it whenever I can...
...starting with the section on writing a plugin (I hope you approve), and challenge other Feng Office Community users who use this great product for free to help create a vibrant community by contributing in kind by helping newbies on the forum, contributing a plugin and writing (or translating) a wiki article.
Best
--
Denis
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Feng Office 2 / Re: So....really....what's happenning to Feng Office?
« on: December 10, 2012, 07:44:36 pm »
I love Feng Office. I really don't know what's going on back at the ranch and I cannot make sense of their commercialization path either.
For me a far better model is the one used by WordPress, which draws on a massive community through wordpress.org, offers free 'cloud' blogging services through wordpress.com, and sells commercially through Automattic.com. Through Automattic the Wordpress core developers also offer custom enterprise grade web services like VIP hosting to the worlds top corporations, paid-for support services (if the forums can't help), a cut on referrals to hosting companies, google adsense on wordpress.com, etc., etc. Wordpress makes it easy to contribute by providing excellent documentation, a regulated plugin submission system, etc., at the same time maintaining excellent and consistent design throughout all its online resources.
For Feng Office to grow requires that it is robust, that it attains 'love brand' status (like Apple or WordPress) and that it creates an environment where the community can contribute. I certainly believe that Feng Office can do and be these things!
Feng Office needs to get a lot better at documentation, formalizing the plugin system and providing a much more flexible pricing model for premium plugins and VIP hosting. But it must also allow the user the option of using non-premium ('lite' or user-contributed) plugins if they wish. Like WordPress, they need to create an economy around the free core product, where other developers (e.g. premium plugin writers) depend on it for their livelihood.
True financial success for the Feng Office team lies in expanding the community significantly.
Observing the low activity in this forum and general stagnation of all of Feng Office's web marketing and communications collateral, I am inclined to deduce that marginal growth in the user base may be diminishing.
What can I do to help?
For me a far better model is the one used by WordPress, which draws on a massive community through wordpress.org, offers free 'cloud' blogging services through wordpress.com, and sells commercially through Automattic.com. Through Automattic the Wordpress core developers also offer custom enterprise grade web services like VIP hosting to the worlds top corporations, paid-for support services (if the forums can't help), a cut on referrals to hosting companies, google adsense on wordpress.com, etc., etc. Wordpress makes it easy to contribute by providing excellent documentation, a regulated plugin submission system, etc., at the same time maintaining excellent and consistent design throughout all its online resources.
For Feng Office to grow requires that it is robust, that it attains 'love brand' status (like Apple or WordPress) and that it creates an environment where the community can contribute. I certainly believe that Feng Office can do and be these things!
Feng Office needs to get a lot better at documentation, formalizing the plugin system and providing a much more flexible pricing model for premium plugins and VIP hosting. But it must also allow the user the option of using non-premium ('lite' or user-contributed) plugins if they wish. Like WordPress, they need to create an economy around the free core product, where other developers (e.g. premium plugin writers) depend on it for their livelihood.
True financial success for the Feng Office team lies in expanding the community significantly.
Observing the low activity in this forum and general stagnation of all of Feng Office's web marketing and communications collateral, I am inclined to deduce that marginal growth in the user base may be diminishing.
What can I do to help?
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How To's / Re: Frustrated with user interface
« on: May 09, 2012, 12:07:25 pm »
I switched to FengOffice more than a year ago. I must say that, at first, Feng was a bit of a mystery - a bit like using an iPad - but, to extend the metaphor, once I got my head around the paradigm it was a joy under my fingers.
Web2Project is about projects. It implements a standard and somewhat inflexible view on what projects are, and typical hierarchical ordering from tasks up to projects up to clients. And if that is what you want then it's an excellent choice.
Feng Office can also manage projects, but that is just one application of its "Workspace" paradigm; it offers much more besides. Its more of a collaboration tool than a project management tool. Here's how we use it:
It's our unified communication hub. All business-related email is sent and received via Feng, and each message is associated with one or more dimensions (workspaces and tags). The attachments are conveniently saved in Feng's document store and we can immediately create a new task from the email. We create a "note" for each phone call and that too is associated. All business communication is either created within Feng or is uploaded as a document. All these interactions are associated with workspaces and get tags (for example "quote" or "invoice"). If you're following you'll realise that Feng is a document management system. It's a CRM system. Its a Support Ticket system. It's our event-calendar, time-tracking, contact-detail-keeping system. A plugin will soon make it our quoting and invoicing system too.
Assigning workspaces and tags to objects, and linking objects to one another means that with Feng Office we can FIND STUFF EASILY! "I Need the original quote we sent for the Acme project". Easy. Select workspace "Acme", Select tag "quote", click on the "document" tab, and there's a list of all the quotes. Click on the email tab, and there are the email conversation threads concerning the relevant quotes (we tagged them "quote" too); over to the tasks tag and under the "Internal Process" milestone I see who was assigned, what they did and how much time we spent producing the quote. (The Internal Process milestone and its tasks was created with a single click from our pre-defined custom list - it always includes tasks: Quote, Order, Deliver and Invoice, so Feng is our admin workflow management system too)
Feng Office is not the best at many of these individual things :- there are definitely better "pure" project management systems, better email clients, and better document management, CRM and workflow management systems. But FengOffice is definitely better at HOW it combines all these functions and the possibilities it creates for doing things in different ways..
The power of Feng Office is how you use it, and what 'rules' you have devised to name and organize your dimensions. Without clear direction and planning Feng Office will be unfathomable, and perhaps a system that dictates method would be a better choice.
Web2Project is about projects. It implements a standard and somewhat inflexible view on what projects are, and typical hierarchical ordering from tasks up to projects up to clients. And if that is what you want then it's an excellent choice.
Feng Office can also manage projects, but that is just one application of its "Workspace" paradigm; it offers much more besides. Its more of a collaboration tool than a project management tool. Here's how we use it:
It's our unified communication hub. All business-related email is sent and received via Feng, and each message is associated with one or more dimensions (workspaces and tags). The attachments are conveniently saved in Feng's document store and we can immediately create a new task from the email. We create a "note" for each phone call and that too is associated. All business communication is either created within Feng or is uploaded as a document. All these interactions are associated with workspaces and get tags (for example "quote" or "invoice"). If you're following you'll realise that Feng is a document management system. It's a CRM system. Its a Support Ticket system. It's our event-calendar, time-tracking, contact-detail-keeping system. A plugin will soon make it our quoting and invoicing system too.
Assigning workspaces and tags to objects, and linking objects to one another means that with Feng Office we can FIND STUFF EASILY! "I Need the original quote we sent for the Acme project". Easy. Select workspace "Acme", Select tag "quote", click on the "document" tab, and there's a list of all the quotes. Click on the email tab, and there are the email conversation threads concerning the relevant quotes (we tagged them "quote" too); over to the tasks tag and under the "Internal Process" milestone I see who was assigned, what they did and how much time we spent producing the quote. (The Internal Process milestone and its tasks was created with a single click from our pre-defined custom list - it always includes tasks: Quote, Order, Deliver and Invoice, so Feng is our admin workflow management system too)
Feng Office is not the best at many of these individual things :- there are definitely better "pure" project management systems, better email clients, and better document management, CRM and workflow management systems. But FengOffice is definitely better at HOW it combines all these functions and the possibilities it creates for doing things in different ways..
The power of Feng Office is how you use it, and what 'rules' you have devised to name and organize your dimensions. Without clear direction and planning Feng Office will be unfathomable, and perhaps a system that dictates method would be a better choice.
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How To's / Re: PDF Viewing - MIME application/pdf
« on: May 09, 2012, 10:04:34 am »
Occasionally the Internet Content (MIME) Type of the document does not match the extension. For example, for a file somefile.pdf the type should be application/pdf, but instead it is shown as something else, like application/octet-stream or just application/ , which then means that it cannot be viewed with the embedded PDF viewer.
Short Question: How can I change the type?
Short Question: How can I change the type?
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Feature requests / Email bulk-action classify
« on: May 04, 2012, 05:39:38 am »
Occasionally I need to classify a whole bunch of emails into one common workspace. Doing them one-by-one is tedious and time-consuming. It would be great to simply select them all and click one 'classify' action.
It would need a default action for handling attachments - either ALL or NONE of the selected are saved as documents and attached to the workspace.
Obviously it would not be possible to 'create task from email' in such a bulk action.
It would need a default action for handling attachments - either ALL or NONE of the selected are saved as documents and attached to the workspace.
Obviously it would not be possible to 'create task from email' in such a bulk action.
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Getting Started / Re: Help with plugins
« on: April 26, 2012, 03:42:47 pm »
I'm guessing here:
1. you downloaded and installed the latest Feng Office, 2.0.x, and
2. you tried to install plugins that are compatible with Feng Office 1.7.5 and earlier.
Hint: The downloadable files have a 2009 date-stamp. The plugin mechanism was completely overhauled for FengOffice 2.x, released in 2012. So I assume that they are no longer compatible.
1. you downloaded and installed the latest Feng Office, 2.0.x, and
2. you tried to install plugins that are compatible with Feng Office 1.7.5 and earlier.
Hint: The downloadable files have a 2009 date-stamp. The plugin mechanism was completely overhauled for FengOffice 2.x, released in 2012. So I assume that they are no longer compatible.
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