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: Mobile version
: carcam August 20, 2009, 12:04:54 PM
As I am right now on a bus, I am thinking about a mobile version for Opengoo. What do you think?
: Re: Mobile version
: koko August 21, 2009, 09:05:31 AM
Hi,

I've been thinking about it also a lot ...
A version without the Javascript (as far as i know, there is no mobile browser yet with js-support ....) and all the content visible and the possibility to edit everything.

Any other opinions?
: Re: Mobile version
: carcam August 21, 2009, 07:37:18 PM
My phone does support js, and even it's capable of accessing Opengoo main page, but it's really heavy for it.

So, as you have suggested, koko, it should be a page mainly in HTML, not as simple as Google mobile services, but much lighter than desktop version. :)
: Re: Mobile version
: carcam August 22, 2009, 05:54:18 AM
I've been thinking about this, and perhaps we could make a light template that suits well in our phone browsers. :-\

What do you think?
: Re: Mobile version
: koko August 23, 2009, 11:53:24 AM
Hello,

I think this might be a good start!
One thing to consider:
Can we get the basic features working with just a template?

PS What browser do you use? I use Opera, and I think it can't work with JS.
: Re: Mobile version
: carcam August 23, 2009, 07:55:36 PM
I use the Nokia Browser, it's at least as good as Opera (I was a real Opera Mini fan) and It is a symbian apps.

First of all, we could define the main features. For example, at the main windows we should have a link for:

As the workspace specify the context of the application, I don't see the need to implement it on the main page. Perhaps it could be shown as a property of the items once you have a list of them, or so.
: Re: Mobile version
: cabeza August 24, 2009, 06:23:37 PM
Please let us know if we can help you with this in any way. We have no time/budget to completely develop it for free, but would love to help you with it.
Regards,
Marcos
: Re: Mobile version
: carcam August 24, 2009, 07:49:02 PM
Well, I have been taking a look at the templates but it seems that we are pretty constrained. We can only change css properties.

For a better mobile experience I think that it is basic to take out the panels and the tabs (without CSS tricks as hidden property). Do you think there is a way to accomplish this?
: Re: Mobile version
: carcam August 25, 2009, 06:55:58 AM
A little search in Google: "extjs mobile" has vanished my hopes for a Mobile version.

As a Javascript framework, Extjs rely on Javascript (pretty obvious, isn't it?), so the templates system wouldn't make a point in this case. It seems that some ExtJS developers don't take mobile browsing seriously:

http://extjs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34723 (http://extjs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34723)

Nevertheless it all depends on how is Opengoo created:

http://extjs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17752 (http://extjs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17752)

I have not taken a look into the code, but I think that it completely rely on the JS for everything, so, it's a lost battle.  :(
: Re: Mobile version
: koko August 25, 2009, 06:59:06 AM
Hi,

What a pitty!!!

Can we make a (totally seperated) version of Opengoo? From scratch, with everything scripted for exclusively Mobile use?

The features have to be the same, i think, but this way, we have a mobile version of opengoo ...
: Re: Mobile version
: cabeza August 26, 2009, 06:19:34 PM
Hello,

 Unfortunately, user interface cannot be reused as is. Complete rewriting is not necessary but framework and user interface adaption is not an easy task.

We cannot cover all the costs of doing this, but would definitely be interested in developing it if we had enough paying customers for this feature.
: Re: Mobile version
: carcam August 28, 2009, 03:23:38 PM
Hello,

 Unfortunately, user interface cannot be reused as is. Complete rewriting is not necessary but framework and user interface adaption is not an easy task.

We cannot cover all the costs of doing this, but would definitely be interested in developing it if we had enough paying customers for this feature.


I utterly disagree with your point. We just need a hook to the db functions, we were trying to set the mobile views. BTW I think a mobile version is a must for this kind of application.

Nevertheless, It's just a minor disagreement that does not shadow your great work in the script. Thank you for your help anyway. ;)
: Re: Mobile version
: Syrion August 28, 2009, 03:36:35 PM
A mobile version needs a new set of templates, since the current templates are AJAX based. Every function would rely on 2 or 3 separate pages for the mobile version. So a lot of pages need to be created, most of them form-based.

Do we have anyone in the community who has done something like that before?
: Re: Mobile version
: carcam August 31, 2009, 03:10:52 AM
A mobile version must not be ajax based, as most mobile devices don't support javascript. I have some experience with HTML and mobile applications and I was trying to create a template.

There are not so many pages, as the mobile version won't have the same functionalities.
: Re: Mobile version
: kristjanmik September 01, 2009, 12:55:22 PM
I reccomend you to check this out (http://www.jqtouch.com/)
: Re: Mobile version
: carcam September 01, 2009, 05:48:00 PM
I reccomend you to check this out (http://www.jqtouch.com/)

The point is that jquery is a Javascript library, and we are trying to avoid javascript  ;).

By the way, it's a very interesting link for another developments.
: Re: Mobile version
: cabeza September 03, 2009, 10:17:53 AM
We've opened two new threads concerning Funambol SyncML synchronization (for mobile devices):
If you are interested in sponsoring the feature, read this one (http://forums.opengoo.org/index.php?topic=2634.0).
If you have any questions, please post them here (http://forums.opengoo.org/index.php?topic=2632.0).
: Re: Mobile version
: rportinga October 09, 2009, 03:03:52 PM
OpenGoo works fine on my Palm Pre, but there is a lot of moving around the screen....

I wonder if a more mobile friendly theme would work...?

I would personally love to see some sort of webOS Synergy integration at some point. I'll have to start turning other Pre (and soon Pixi) users on to OpenGoo and see if we can't drum up some development support.