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Title: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: Wilmar on April 14, 2009, 08:39:47 am
Does anybody know if theres anyone developping an iPhone app for Opengoo. I'm willing to pay for it in the iTunes store, and I'm sure many Opengoo users that have an iPhone wil.

At the moment I'm looking at Toodledo and Basecamp to setup my project management needs as a freelancer. Just because there iPhone apps for these applications. But I like opengoo a lot so I'm reluctant to switch.

I'm a graphic designer and interaction designer. I can't program but I'm willing to help making the UI.
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: ignacio on April 17, 2009, 03:16:35 pm
We also would love to have an IPhone app for OpenGoo, but it isn't planned yet. No one at the core development team has experience developing for the IPhone. If you know of anyone interested on developing this please let us know.
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: conrado on April 17, 2009, 06:03:56 pm
Actually Ignacio, we have developers on the team with experience developing mobile apps and doing iphone apps on side projects.

Doing a good app for OpenGoo is certainly something I would consider if we find someone willing to sponsor the whole project, or enough people to do a joint sponsorship.

Raising $ 5000 would probably be enough to get a decent beta.

Interested parties?
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: Wilmar on April 18, 2009, 09:10:08 am
I'm not in the financial position to invest $5000,-. Maybe it's an idea to start a poll or intake list. Suppose the app wil sell for $4,- . Would you start developing if 2000 users would say that they will buy the app when it comes out?


Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: conrado on April 18, 2009, 09:31:47 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: kristjanmik on April 19, 2009, 08:40:20 am
This is a must feature!
I will support this project to get it.

Can I see the changelog for next realese somewere?
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: cguyer on May 14, 2009, 03:27:27 pm
sounds very interesting, i will stay tuned to this thread.
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: dalepike on May 16, 2009, 12:06:39 am
Maybe there is a logical place you could put a "donate to fund development" link for paypal? You could set a goal for stages of development and if there wasn't enough donated to make it happen, you could donate the total to a pre-determined charity instead? I for one would put up $10-20, so it would probably take quite a few of "me" before any real traction was to be had.
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: Mateus on June 09, 2009, 10:04:58 am
Hallo... I think you just need to make a page with usefull info about this App and a funkction, tad eny one who donates more than 10$ will get thiss App for free, and for 5$ donate get an 50% discount. Isn't it ok?

I am whery interested in that kind of App couse I am responsible for work and contacts management @ office and there are 3 users of iPhone for now. If there could be an option to use Opengoo thru iPhone and mabey sybc an contacts to iPhone from Opengoo... ill be ready to donate 100$

Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: xdirewolfx on June 26, 2009, 01:21:49 pm
http://code.google.com/p/iui/

Seem like a decent framework to minimize work on iPhone?
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: jolon on August 26, 2009, 05:09:45 am
OpenGoo probably doesn't need a super fancy native app that requires objective-C hours and APIs back to each instance you want to access.

The webapp approach seems best. A template and redirect would probably do it. DeviantArt.org still has my favorite implementation of complex web app to iphone.

Some thoughts:

On login: A Dashboard of action items, which features and drills down to priority items

Workspaces would probably be in a Select box, and Functions (Overview, Notes, Contacts, etc.  as Lists, which then drill down to action items?

The first thing to do is think about use cases for interaction on the iphone, as OpenGoo presents a lot of different information within it's 3 columns, and one of the biggest challenges will be to make the info accessible within a 1 column view with less real estate.

I'm checking it out, but thoughts?

Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: koko on August 26, 2009, 06:09:19 am
Hi,

We've been giving some thoughts on this:
http://forums.opengoo.org/index.php?topic=2510.0

Further, I think making an app exclusively for the iPhone would narrow down you potential users ... There are more smartphone then just tha iPhone ;-)
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: cabeza on August 26, 2009, 06:17:01 pm
I tried OpenGoo in an iPhone some time ago. It did work a little bit, being terribly slow, and randomly hanging. My conclusion was that it could be used for some quick task, but definitely not for everyday use.

As Conrado said before, we are not in a position where we can develop a whole iPhone App for free. But we are interested in finding users that might be willing to sponsor it. Just let me know.

Regards,
Marcos
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: koko on August 26, 2009, 06:41:32 pm
Hi,

I'm willing to sponsor this feature, but only if it will be useable on most of the modern mobile browsers (not just iPhone ;) )
Also, I can't give you the big mony, but I'm willing to sponsor 100 EUR and some development time of my own.

Edit: Maybe it might be usefull to keep an IRC-chat conversation on this topic? (with someone taking notes and make a summary  ::) )
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: ignacio on August 28, 2009, 11:20:06 am
Yes, I think that a simple mobile web GUI that works on most smart phones would be the best choice.

An iPhone app on the other hand could have some features like accessing data offline or maybe working offline (writing drafts to be uploaded later, for instance) that would not be possible in a web app GUI.
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: carcam on August 31, 2009, 03:06:32 am
How many users of OpenGoo owns an iPhone?

I understand that the point here is the money, but I can't see the point in developing a privative device version of an open source script... From my point of view, that would corrupt the ethical background.  :-\
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: Syrion on August 31, 2009, 05:03:40 am
Hence an additional template-group for mobile browsing is preferable, so any PDA with internet access can use it.
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: carcam on August 31, 2009, 11:00:04 am
BTW, the poll won't show real results as the thread as an iphone title. Perhaps you could have more third options if you create a more neutral one. :-\
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: cabeza on August 31, 2009, 11:22:13 am
Hi,

I'm willing to sponsor this feature, but only if it will be useable on most of the modern mobile browsers (not just iPhone ;) )
Also, I can't give you the big mony, but I'm willing to sponsor 100 EUR and some development time of my own.

Edit: Maybe it might be usefull to keep an IRC-chat conversation on this topic? (with someone taking notes and make a summary  ::) )

Glad to hear you are interested in sponsoring. We can schedule a chat meeting on this, but I would like to have more feedback from the community before we actually have the discussion.
You might imagine that 100 EUR does not cover complete development costs, but it's a good start ! We'll let you know when we find other users that show interest.

BTW, the poll won't show real results as the thread as an iphone title. Perhaps you could have more third options if you create a more neutral one. :-\

We are working on alternatives as mentioned here (http://"http://forums.opengoo.org/index.php?topic=2571.0"). Suggestions are welcome!
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: cabeza on September 03, 2009, 10:16:57 am
We've opened two new threads concerning Funambol SyncML synchronization (for mobile devices):
If you are interested in sponsoring the feature, read this one (http://forums.opengoo.org/index.php?topic=2634.0).
If you have any questions, please post them here (http://forums.opengoo.org/index.php?topic=2632.0).
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: xcessi on October 01, 2009, 07:56:42 pm
I would be willing to make a donation to the development of this app for the iPhone.. count me in for 25 USD

I like the idea of being able to create tasks offline and sync later when connection available..
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: a2opinion on October 05, 2009, 06:32:43 pm
I can't donate any money, but I'd be willing to help out on the development end... I'm thinking rather than building an app for the iphone, it would be better to simply make a web app that could be loaded into all smart phones or mobiles.  Also it wouldn't have to have full functionality.  I'm not going to take the time to do any heavy lifting on my iPhone or any document creation.  That's just a pain.  On the other hand it would be very handy to be able to login, and see what calendar events are coming up, add/edit events, look up contacts, and add/edit contacts, and get my email.  Having a persistent drop down with all the work areas could serve as method to filter all of the info with relevant tabs under that drop down... it could be set up as a mobile subdirectory that is automatically displayed when index.php encounters a mobile browser...

could be billed at a plugin I suppose
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: cabeza on October 06, 2009, 09:30:40 am
I would be willing to make a donation to the development of this app for the iPhone.. count me in for 25 USD

I like the idea of being able to create tasks offline and sync later when connection available..

Good to know!

I can't donate any money, but I'd be willing to help out on the development end... I'm thinking rather than building an app for the iphone, it would be better to simply make a web app that could be loaded into all smart phones or mobiles.  Also it wouldn't have to have full functionality.  I'm not going to take the time to do any heavy lifting on my iPhone or any document creation.  That's just a pain.  On the other hand it would be very handy to be able to login, and see what calendar events are coming up, add/edit events, look up contacts, and add/edit contacts, and get my email.  Having a persistent drop down with all the work areas could serve as method to filter all of the info with relevant tabs under that drop down... it could be set up as a mobile subdirectory that is automatically displayed when index.php encounters a mobile browser...

could be billed at a plugin I suppose

Nowadays the best help we can receive is in the form of development documentation. Given the current OpenGoo architecture, what changes would you make? what features would you include in the mobile version? which ones would you leave out? Do you have any ideas for the interface?
Answering these questions would be a good start for us.
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: carcam on October 08, 2009, 03:57:50 am
Nowadays the best help we can receive is in the form of development documentation.

I think you should make up your mind about your preferences:

http://forums.opengoo.org/index.php?topic=2510.msg9835#msg9835

Given the current OpenGoo architecture, what changes would you make? what features would you include in the mobile version? which ones would you leave out? Do you have any ideas for the interface?
Answering these questions would be a good start for us.
Actually, in the same thread I sketched up some features for the mobile version:

http://forums.opengoo.org/index.php?topic=2510.msg9705#msg9705

I gave up after reading the first link and this last one:
http://forums.opengoo.org/index.php?topic=2510.msg10110#msg10110
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: cabeza on October 08, 2009, 11:13:25 am

I think you should make up your mind about your preferences:

http://forums.opengoo.org/index.php?topic=2510.msg9835#msg9835

It's very simple:

If you can sponsor with money and we reach the budget, we start developing everything by ourselves immediately .

a2opinion stated he cannot "donate any money" but he is willing to help with development. So we consider that the best he can do nowadays is start helping with documentation (defining requirements, etc). If we can get a "formal" exhaustive requirements document, we would get the integration project started and might even get the integration without the need for sponsoring, just with the work of volunteers.

Actually, in the same thread I sketched up some features for the mobile version:

Read it; and consider it a good start; but we need lots more before we can start the project.
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: koko on October 08, 2009, 11:48:42 am
Hi,

Maybe it could be a good idea to make a page on the wiki where all the volunteers could add usefull content.  With DokuWiki is this very good possible, no?
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: cabeza on October 08, 2009, 11:58:10 am
msauter (http://forums.opengoo.org/index.php?action=profile;u=160) is the wiki administrator.
Please contact him if you wish to add content and you have no permissions.
Best
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: carcam on October 08, 2009, 02:46:49 pm
Actually, in the same thread I sketched up some features for the mobile version:

Read it; and consider it a good start; but we need lots more before we can start the project.

You don't give me more chances, so I gave up the development. After this post:

http://forums.opengoo.org/index.php?topic=2510.msg9835#msg9835

I asked about db hooks and so on, but your reply (some time later) was only about the sponsorship of the syncing feature.

At that time I could not understand why you started the funambol feature, as everyone was asking a mobile/iphone version, but it didn't seem a bad idea. I wrote to Marcos offering my sponsorship and this morning (Spanish time) I confirmed it, but I am not comfortable about this situation. I feel a bit deceived with your lack of planning.
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: Cprouvot on October 13, 2009, 10:26:15 am
I think an Open Goo Apps for IPhone/mobile is a great idea to develop this open source project more than a sync with Funambol!

Do you make an estimation for this development?
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: Goanna on October 15, 2009, 12:31:30 pm
I vote for a mobile web interface.

My office has users with iPhones, Windows Mobile, Palm Pre and Blackberry's.

Having just an iPhone app would not be helpful to my office as a whole. I would much rather have a unified web system that any mobie deice with a decent browser could access.

Otherwise, There will eventually need to be an iPhone App, a Windows Mobile App, a Palm App, an Android App, etc, etc. That would be much more costly then the mobile web interface.
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: conrado on October 16, 2009, 06:31:17 pm
@complaints,

I don't own an IPhone (Maybe I said this, but if anyone wants to send me one as a present, I'll be happy to accept it).

I believe all ideas: an IPhone app, a funambol plugin, or a Mobile-oriented-Webpage; are great.

The issue is: who will develop these?

I would love to see them all developed and finished tomorrow. But until either:
we won't have them.  ;)

The 'market' will decide the priority. Up until today, 'the market' does not seem to show enough interest.

Cheers!
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: sinbad on July 06, 2010, 12:53:38 pm
Maybe now with sencha touch (http://www.sencha.com/products/touch/)
it should become possible?
I would love to see a ported template for mobile phones.
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: cabeza on July 07, 2010, 06:25:57 pm
Currently we are waiting for two proposals to develop an iphone app and SyncML sync for other devices.
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: SteveRyherd on July 14, 2010, 12:59:35 pm
I've got a Z-Push sync for contacts already setup -- Not sure if anyone is interested in syncing through ActiveSync.  For the iPhone/Android it's tested to be just as easy as setting up an Exchange account.
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: cabeza on July 14, 2010, 04:49:16 pm
Looks interesting. Is it public?
Title: Re: iPhone opengoo app development?
Post by: gea_jani on February 06, 2013, 09:50:03 am
hey, i am also interested in an APP. Could someone please give an Update ?
Thanks
Title: Re: iPhone Feng Office app development?
Post by: conrado on February 18, 2013, 10:08:41 am
There is mobile access through HTML5 for the Professional Edition.

It is free of charge for Professional Edition users.